Hello?

[Derek D. Martin]

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Ok, I just checked the archives, and I have not received a single
message since the cutover.  I did receive the mailman message
indicating that I was subscribed, which I promptly deleted.  If there
were instructions for me to follow in it, I didn't, so maybe that's my
fault. 

Another reason I personally don't like mailman is that it has
incorporated pipermail for its archival of messages.  Pipermail has 3
problems:

 - it also has a history of security problems
 - it displays e-mail addresses of posters in easy to snarf format
   (actually I think this can be turned off, but isn't by default)
 - it does not properly handle display of messages in quoted printable
   format

For the last two, see the proof here:

  http://mail.gnhlug.org/pipermail/gnhlug-discuss/2002-August/000058.html

For proof of the first, I would have provided a security focus link,
but all I can get out of them at the moment is that their site is
busy.  Grrr.

This may work (eventually):

  http://online.securityfocus.com/search?submit=yes&category=2&order=DESC&query=mailman

Or, it may not.  :)

I don't manage the list, so I'm not trying to suggest that the
software should be replaced; those who do manage the list can make
that decision for themselves.  I am however trying to suggest that
(largely due to its web interface) mailman probably requires more
attention and TLC than some other list management software.  Perhaps
those who have chosen mailman might not have had the full picture...


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