multiple GNHLUG archives at mail-archive.com ?

jbd at codemeta.com jbd at codemeta.com
Tue Aug 13 14:51:17 EDT 2002


After poking around a bit (which I *really don't* have time to do for the next 
few days - but I needed a break), I found that most, if not all, of the 
messages on the various lists displayed by mail-archive are different. So I 
suspect this is jab.org's problem. Now, if someone wants to go through the pain 
of combining the lists for the archive site, then please contact the 
maintainers of the archive site. They've been pretty good at keeping the site 
up and running for the past several years, so they might be receptive, but I 
would strongly recommend against pushing them to adopt something they don't 
offer.

Also, as bscott pointed out in a subsequent message, things will get better 
once things improve (well, duh.) But we have to wait a bit - unless someone 
wants to pay a qualified someone to expedite the process (sorry, I still have 
to pay for the roof over my head and groceries on the table - but I'm working 
on that problem too).

In the process of upgrading mailman on the site a few days ago I ran into some 
problems - more with mailman/pipermail than with the upgrade process, and I'm 
trying to track those down. One problem is that email addresses appear on the 
discuss list but not on the org list, despite both lists being explicitly 
configured not to output addresses in the archives. Another problem is that 
mailman's upgrade mechanism will break the existing virtual host configuration -
 so I have to install the new version and "plop" the existing database and 
archives on top of it (after some appropriate hacking). 

These are all do-able things, its just going to take time to do it (which I 
have very little of for the next several weeks).

Now, if someone else wants to do it, and I can trust them to work on a co-lo'ed 
server in a virtual-hosted environment (and its a pretty anemic system too), 
and to do it in a timely fashion, then I'm willing to talk to them. But I'm not 
in a position to pay anyone to do it just now.

Trust me. Things will improve, only it will be at the speed of "free" and not 
at the speed of "profit".

Mike, Ben: I don't mean to be railing at you. Its just that the community seems 
to forget that there is overhead associated with free services, and I happen to 
work for the company that pays for that overhead. I'm just using your messages 
to 1) bring general awareness, and 2) to explain what the "man behind the 
curtain" is doing.

--Bruce

Quoting Michael O'Donnell <mod+gnhlug at std.com>:
> It looks like the GNHLUG archives are
> now distributed across five different
> repositories, ...
>...
> I regard this to be A Bad Thing(tm) and
> additional incentive to figure out what the
> One True List Address is.  I recommend we
> then disable all others.


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