> > the mua needs to be able to leave pop messages on the server .... > > Ewwwwwwwwwwww. I agree, I use IMAP now, but I used to use pop.. Why would you ever leave messages on the server if you're using pop mail, unless of course you're doing so to get it in another location.. But then you use IMAP since that's what it's for, or webmail..