getting Authoritative Name Servers registered in TLD

Ben Scott dragonhawk at gmail.com
Wed Dec 21 14:30:01 EST 2005


On 12/21/05, Bill McGonigle <bill at bfccomputing.com> wrote:
> At one point before I knew about glue records I did this without asking
> for glue records to be created, and, sure enough, they were in WHOIS
> but there was no glue so the domain didn't work.

  Interesting.  I suspect this might be dependent on the registrar. 
I've never had to request glue records before; they've always just
appeared automatically when I registered a domain.  It worked that way
for the tens of domains hosted at NTI when I was there (generally with
Network Delusions), and works that way for a few vanity domains I've
registered personally (with DomainMonger, on their servers).

  As you say, it's pretty clear when glue is needed, and I can't think
of a reason one would *not* want them added in those cases.

  A quick test shows a couple random domains working as expected:

$ dig +nocom +nostat +nocmd +noques @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET. sendmail.org.
sendmail.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns1.neophilic.net.
sendmail.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns.gshapiro.net.
$ dig +nocom +nostat +nocmd +noques @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET. redcross.org.
redcross.org.           86400   IN      NS      arcdns3.redcross.org.
redcross.org.           86400   IN      NS      arcdns2.redcross.org.
redcross.org.           86400   IN      NS      arcdns1.redcross.org.
arcdns3.redcross.org.   86400   IN      A       162.6.90.141
ARCDNS2.REDCROSS.ORG.   172800  IN      A       162.6.217.142
ARCDNS1.REDCROSS.ORG.   172800  IN      A       162.6.217.141
$ dig +nocom +nostat +nocmd +noques @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET. icann.org.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      sec3.apnic.net.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      sec1.apnic.net.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      rip.psg.com.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      ns.icann.org.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      c.iana-servers.net.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      b.iana-servers.org.
icann.org.              86400   IN      NS      a.iana-servers.net.
b.iana-servers.org.     86400   IN      A       193.0.0.236
NS.ICANN.ORG.           172800  IN      A       192.0.34.126
$

  Notice how glue (A records of name servers) is only included when
the server in question is a child of the <org.> domain.

-- Ben



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