Debian flamewar

[Bill Mullen]

On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 09:08, Dan Jenkins wrote:
> Cole Tuininga wrote:
> 
> >  As an example, let's say I happen to know that in order to get a
> >  remote machine to handle X forwarding with ssh, I need the xauth
> >  command. But I'm not really sure in what package I would find xauth.
> >
> >
> >  $ apt-cache search xauth xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients xvfb
> >  - virtual framebuffer X server
> >
> >  Sounds like xbase-clients is what I want. This is the thing that
> >  kinda "wowed" me about apt when I first started playing with debian.
> >  I'm imagining that yum probably has a similar ability though.
> 
> That was one of the things I liked most about Debian too.
> I think it has inspired the other extended package managers (yum, urpm, 
> ...).
> 
> For example, Mandrake's equivalent is:
>     # What package contains xauth:
>     $ urpmq xauth
>     mkxauth
> 
>     # Fuzzy search (these packages mention xauth):
>     $ urpmq -y xauth
>     The following packages contain xauth:
>     XFree86
>     mkxauth
>     pam
> 
>     # Who depends on this package:
>     $ urpmq -R xsane
>     xsane
>     xsane-gimp
> 
>     # What does this package depend on:
>     $ urpmq -d xsane
>     bash
>     chkconfig
>     common-licenses
>     fontconfig
>     glibc
>     grep
>     hotplug
>     ifplugd
>     ldconfig
>     libatk1.0_0
>     libexif9
>     libexpat0
>     libfontconfig1
>     libfreetype6
>     libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0
>     libglib2.0_0
>     libgphoto-hotplug
>     libgphoto2
>     libgtk+-x11-2.0_0
>     libieee1284_3
>     libjpeg62
>     libpango1.0_0
>     libpcre0
>     libpng3
>     libsane1
>     libtermcap2
>     libtiff3
>     libusb0.1_4
>     libxfree86
>     libxpm4
>     pango
>     sash
>     usbutils
>     xsane
>     zlib1
> 
> Of course, this one can be less useful for some packages, since 
> dependencies can fan out rapidly.
> xauth, for example, depends on 80 different packages.

And let's not forget Mandrake's handy "urpmf" command for this:

moon at server2:~$ urpmf xauth
xorg-x11:/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth
xorg-x11:/usr/X11R6/man/man1/xauth.1x.bz2
kdebluetooth-devel:/usr/include/qobex/qobexauth.h
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/CM/DEPEND/xauth-sig.sml
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/CM/DEPEND/xauth.sml
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/CM/x86-unix/xauth-sig.sml.bin
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/CM/x86-unix/xauth.sml.bin
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/xauth-sig.sml
smlnj:/usr/lib/smlnj/src/eXene/graph-util/xauth.sml
freeswan:/usr/share/doc/freeswan-2.04/std/draft-beaulieu-ike-xauth-02.txt
XFree86:/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth
XFree86:/usr/X11R6/man/man1/xauth.1x.bz2
moon at server2:~$

When a compile barfs because it's looking for a specific file, urpmf is
ideal for identifying exactly which -devel RPM(s) can provide that file.

moon at server2:~$ urpmf xrender.pc
libxorg-x11-devel:/usr/lib/pkgconfig/xrender.pc
libxfree86-devel:/usr/lib/pkgconfig/xrender.pc
moon at server2:~$

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Bill Mullen
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