[OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th

Travis Roy travis at scootz.net
Wed Oct 26 12:36:01 EDT 2005


> Perhaps having more than one EZ pass thingy could be used to stump
> the system. Use one for getting onto the toll road, the other for gettting
> off (using static bags or whatever to keep the one active and the other
> inactive). Presumably the system would not be smart enough to link the
> the two EZ pass thingys being used this way.  I don't have one of
> them, so I don't know what the potential drawabacks are.
> 
> BTW - If a ticket were to be issued based on EZ pass data
> how would it proved absolutely that the person who owns the EZ pass
> was the person driving whatever vehicle was going over the speed
> limit.Perhaps there are more than one dirver, perhaps the car or pass
> is being loaned out to a friend.

Your EZ-Pass transponder is linked to your car in the DB. You must give 
them a car make/model and plate number. If they don't match (they have a 
camera that looks at the plates, not sure if it tries to match them 
however), then you can get in trouble. Said so in the instructions that 
came with my EZ-Pass. You are only suppose to have one EZ-Pass per car.

> Doesn't  there need to be some kind of indisputable evidence that
> the person being given a speeding ticket is the person who is
> in control of the speeding vehicle at the time? I suppose cameras
> could be used in conjunction with EZ pass thingys to verify the
> driver along every stretch of road (because drivers can alternate)
> but one could simply simply wear a latex penguin (linux theme)
> mask while driving to remain unrecognizable -- or is there a law
> against that too.

Blocking the view of the driver has been used as a defense against those 
red-light cameras. Not sure of the outcome of any of that however.


>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Paul Lussier wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> What good is the anti-static bag if you have to remove it to go
>>> through the toll booths? 
>>>  Wed Oct 26 09:02:48 EDT 2005 Brian Chabot Mass. Pike/Rt. 128
>>>  Wed Oct 26 09:47:10 EDT 2005 Brian Chabot Mass. Pike/Rt. 91
>>>  ----
>>>  Distance: 72 miles
>>>  Time:     45 minutes
>>>  Speed:    96 MPH
>>>
>>> Mail that speeding ticket!
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Uhh... If you're on the Mass Pike, they already have the ability to do 
>> that.  You know that paper toll ticket? It's got a time stamp.
>>
>> There are highways in Canada where they actually do this and issue the 
>> speeding ticket right at the exit toll.  No RFID needed.
>>
>> Plus all over they have cameras.  Pointed at your license plate.  You 
>> know it wouldn't be too hard to use OCR and a stopwatch to catch you 
>> speeding through tolls.
>>
>> If you're worried about it, you can take other roads, use coins for 
>> this trip, or (novel concept) not break the law.
>>
>> Brian
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