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P.S. It's at the NHTI. You can get directions on the NHTI site:
http://www.nhti.net/frames_Map.html
It's in Little Hall, marked as "K" on that map. The room is 233.
Centralug meets at *NHTI*, and the room IS a new one, and we'll
talk about Python at 6:30 before the meeting. I got confused. Sorry.
Last goof-up of 2004 (yeah, right).
-Bill
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:18:49 -0500
Bill Sconce <sconce at in-spec-inc.com> wrote:
> OK, let's talk about Python at 6:30(*). Hey, ANYTIME is a good time.
>
> What I was thinking was based on a number of half-baked, nascent
> ideas - that is, just to send a tickler about what interest other
> folks might have. As much as I've come to love Python, there's
> always another thing or two to learn - and learning things in Python
> is as much fun as you can have in front of a computer monitor.
>
> One specific half-bake is the idea of finding a computer lab where
> a group might grope around with Python. That could be anything from
> an ab initio tutorial to a seminar-style development "sprint" (the
> kind of thing they do at PyCon, although at PyCon you have to bring
> your own computer). There would be at least a couple of labs which
> we might hope to use. I have a preliminary inquiry in for one in
> the Concord area; another possibility would be Daniel Webster.
>
> (A Python lab can run perfectly well on Redmond machines. Gas masks
> can be issued at the door for GNHLUG members. But students could be
> invited - perhaps cleverly mentioning "hey, kid, just try one taste,
> you don't have to know that this stuff is Free Software". Heh.)
>
> Also, it would be fun to exchange ideas and experiences. I've taught
> Python courses several times now, and every time there's been someone,
> or several someones, who taught ME, especially in GNHLUG. (Hey, would
> anyone like to talk about Cheetah, and explain why/if templating
> frameworks are a good idea?)
>
> Working along with a book... very interesting, for a group who'd
> already have a lot of computer smarts. Mark Pilgrim's book, "Dive
> Into Python", recently made it into print, and is addressed to folks
> who already have some experience. The great thing about a seminar-style
> program is that it can guarantee a certain level of coverage which OJT
> doesn't. Seminar style also means that the pace can be made very
> flexible, even down to session-by-session "curriculum" development.
> (Right, Ted & Bruce?)
>
> One more half-bake: a heckle contest? E.g., Python vs. Perl vs.
> Ruby vs. C++ vs. Groovy vs. Java vs. whatever. David could defend Ruby,
> I'd be happy to defend Python... surely someone will step up to
> take heckling over Perl. (OK, so maybe C++ and Java are beneath
> heckling. :) JOKE! All in good fun...
>
> Happy New Year'ly yours,
>
> Bill
>
>
> (*) That's 6:30 Monday, January 3, 2005, Panera in Concord, before
> the Centralug meeting. Not being there doesn't mean you'll be left
> out, though - we'll see to it that [David] writes up a report. :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:04:38 -0500
> David J Berube <djberube at berubeconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > My fault about the migration - lol. Anyway, I'm definitely up for
> > meeting @ 6:30. As you alluded to in point #2, perhaps backing the idea
> > up a bit would be good - maybe a scripting languages UG or even a
> > software development group? That would enable us to attract attention to
> > Python more, as well as talk about scripting languages in general, and
> > give us a strong user base to start from.
> >
> > One idea I'd like to integrate into CentraLUG that might work well for
> > such a group: Short, ten minute book reviews/synopsises from members
> > during a meeting.
> >
> > It'd be extremely nice to introduce some Microsoft developers to
> > scripting concepts - I know that personally I've had excellent success
> > mixing Microsoft technologies with scripting languages. I'm also, as I
> > said, very interested in learning more about Python - and about software
> > development in general; I don't think there's anywhere around here to
> > discuss Agile or Extreme methodologies, except perhaps SWANH, but I
> > don't think that's covered by them very often.
> >
> > FYI all, books and other swag from O'Reilly are in - might give away one
> > on Monday.
> >
> > In any case, I'm definitely up for 6:30.
> >
> > Take it easy,
> >
> > --
> >
> > David Berube
> > Berube Consulting
> > djberube at berubeconsulting.com
> > (603)-485-9622
> > http://www.berubeconsulting.com/
> >
> >
> > Ted Roche wrote:
> >
> > > Somehow I think our discussion migrated from the GNHLUG group to the
> > > CentraLUG group mailing list. I've taken the liberty of addressing all
> > > of the "me, too" people individually.
> > >
> > > I'm also interested in a Python SIG. I've seen this done a couple of
> > > different ways, and want to toss out some ideas to see if any might work:
> > >
> > > 1. Arnold Bilansky, an activist in the groups that meet in Waltham,
> > > and former Boston Computer Society board member, created a LearnVB
> > > group years ago, and then the group spent a year working their way
> > > through a book, chapter by chapter. This had some advantages for folks
> > > willing to take a year to learn, and forced everyone to read the
> > > chapter, but feels too slow to me. But a book study group might be a
> > > great idea, perhaps on a different time schedule.
> > >
> > > 2. Guy and I had a lot of success a few years ago with an "early"
> > > session where we spent 12 monthly meetings discussing "How an Idea
> > > Becomes An Application," walking through the processes of
> > > investigation, negotiation, data gathering, design, testing,
> > > documentation, construction and deployment for a commercial
> > > application. Run from 6 PM to 7 PM before the "main" meeting, they
> > > attracted a crowd.
> > >
> > > 3. Other UGs I know have a "Newbie" session for a half-hour to an hour
> > > before the main meeting.
> > >
> > > I have the impression that this group spans that range of experience:
> > > I know Bill has commercial Python experience, and Christopher has some
> > > pretty impressive discussions of RDF/FOAF on his site. I know David
> > > did the Win32 GUI portion of AmphetaDesk. Guy is completely new to
> > > Python while I have been dabbling part-time through online tutorials
> > > and the O'Reilly books.
> > >
> > > I would welcome the opportunity to get together to discuss how we
> > > might get a group going. CentraLUG meets this Monday from 7 PM to 9 PM
> > > in Little Hall on the NHTI Campus, room 233.
> > > http://www.nhti.net/frames_Map.html, marked as "K" on that map. Can we
> > > try to meet at 6:30? Earlier?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 31, 2004, at 8:00 AM, guy Pardoe wrote:
> > >
> > >>>>
> > >> I'd definitely be interested in a Python SIG or UG.
> > >>
> > >> Take it easy,
> > >>
> > >> David Berube
> > >> <<
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Dave,
> > >>
> > >> I have a high interest in this too. I'm an application developer and
> > >> while
> > >> it's interesting learning about a broad view of packages and/or
> > >> issues in
> > >> the Linux environment, my real interest is in learning how to develop
> > >> business applications on Linux (and even better if it's portable to
> > >> Windows).
> > >>
> > >> Python looks like a VERY worthwhile language to know and to use for this
> > >> purpose.
> > >>
> > >> What would be some next steps in order to get something going with a
> > >> focus
> > >> like this? Assuming sufficient interest, would this need to be a group
> > >> different from the existing Centralug?
> > >>
> > >> Guy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Centralug mailing list
> > >> Centralug at mail.centralug.org
> > >> http://mail.centralug.org/mailman/listinfo/centralug
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Ted Roche
> > > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> > > http://www.tedroche.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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