Long-term (hours+) solution for power outage: PBX, lights, and computers
Ted Roche
tedroche at tedroche.com
Fri Sep 1 16:01:01 EDT 2006
On Aug 31, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> As I know you know, a large battery plant is a non-trivial thing.
> In addition to everything Bill Sconce already pointed out, there may
> be fire code requirements as well. I know the battery plants in telco
> COs are truly scary in their potential for destruction.
We've seen what a couple of amp-hours in a laptop battery is capable
of recently.
You should have seen the one I used to manage onboard a submarine!
> So regardless of whether you go with a generator, a large battery
> plant, a flywheel, or a giant mutant hamster in a wheel, I think you
> are going to face problems in the area of physical plant.
There's definitely a TANSTAAFL aspect to this.
> All the UPS vendors I am familiar with say "Don't do that" --
> generally very loudly. It's also rather inefficient. Inefficiency is
> the enemy of economy and compactness, which you have give as goals.
Well, when has a client not asked for something for nothing? Fast.
cheap and efficient. It never hurts to ask.
The desktop UPSes and a full UPS are almost solutions to two
different problems. The desktop UPSes are primarily line conditioners
and for one minute or less blinks of power. The big battery is for
long-term power outage.
> So you're probably best off getting rid of the small UPSes and going
> to one big solution.
One concern there is that the power off one of these big boxes is
ugly AC and may not be suitable for powering computers. I've heard no
horror stories pro and con.
I'm not really their IT guy as much as their lead developer. I was
asked if I knew of a better solution. While the space is rented, I
suspect the client might be there for a while, but infrastructural
improvements might not be that welcomed.
Their power distribution is wired in the walls, and their computers
go right into outlets next to their fans and space heaters, loads you
wouldn't want on the UPS. Short of rewiring the place with a special
feed for computer power, I'm inclined to recommend they beef up their
desktop UPSes for a half-dozen workstations. Maybe a couple of
workstations with long-term use would be sufficient for them. But if
they go the other way, I'll caution them to consider removing the
desktop UPSes.
> From their site: "The systems do not produce heat..."
>
> Neat! I wasn't aware the Second Law of Thermodynamics had been
> repealed. ;-)
It's not just a good idea, it's the law. I-squared-R resolves to zero
when I is zero. But "negligible heat" is probably a more honest
answer. I'll bet it's warmer at full discharge current, though!
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com
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