When kiddies attack!

bmcculley at rcn.com bmcculley at rcn.com
Fri Feb 9 19:17:05 EST 2007


Bill mentions vigilantism.  One of the dangers of vigilante retaliation is that many times the apparent source of attacks is simply some poor sod who left his M$ OEM installation unpatched cuz he knows not what he needs to do.  All it takes is one click on the Super Bowl stadium website and he's a zombie acting to shield some botmaster.  That's why the bot-herds do it that way, so the vigilantes will take down their cannonfodder without getting to the root of the problem.

One advantage of the local guild might be the opportunity for someone knowledgeable to knock on the door and educate the poor zombies.  And of course, to find out whether it's someone who is really malicious, with whatever further action proves appropriate to follow.

Question is, would the unwitting owner of a zombie system open their wallet to close their system?

Any thoughts?

-Bruce McCulley

---- Original message ----
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:53:22 Bill McGonigle wrote:
>On Feb 8, 2007, at 15:16, Thomas Charron wrote:
>>  Will they track down the troublemakers by IP, and go knocking on
>> doors?  Man that'd be nice.  :-D
>
>I've thought more than once it would be nice to have a cooperative  
>guild for just that sort of thing.  Today I'm likely to get attacked  
>by a kid in Amarillo, but tomorrow somebody in Boise might get  
>attacked by a kid in Plainfield, NH.  Some kind of website for  
>tracking attacks, posting logs and IP's, e-mail alerts.  Obviously  
>reputation is paramount for such a system.
>
>The larger problem might really be that kids all over the country are  
>attacking computer systems and law enforcement has no interest,  
>unless it's a high-profile fortune 500 company.  When law enforcement  
>fails, vigilantism tends to spring up.  Really most of these kids  
>just need to have their parents talked to.  Or get into a cool  
>program like Maddog suggested.  Anyway, local complainants might be  
>helpful.
>
>-Bill
>
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