ARTICLE - ESR gives up on Fedora

[Thomas Charron]

On 2/22/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <maddog at li.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:39 -0500, Thomas Charron wrote:
> > On 2/22/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <maddog at li.org> wrote:
> >   Right up till the:
> >         "That was said by Eric Raymond who belongs to another movement"
> >                         - Richard Stallman
> >   Nice to be able to declare things when your self appointed.
> There actually is some meat behind that statement.

  I don't personally find that they are different movements, really.
Different parties, perhaps, moderate versus radical.

> The term "Open Source" was created for many different reasons, but the
> main one being that a group of people thought that "Free Software" was
> creating a mixed message in that it was taken to mean "gratis software",
> which would lead to "gratis everything".  So they invented the term
> "Open Source" to try and give it less ambiguity.

  Which Richard feels isn't even in the same camp.  Richard DOES
believe in gratis everything.  That includes any use of the software
should also be free.  Completely understandable.  But personally, I
feel that the changes for GPL v3 are changing the terms of a community
license not for the betterment of Open Source and/or Free Software in
general, but to solidify Richards 'new world order'.

  I'm at a loss as to why this would apply to Eric stating to a
community that he feels he's part of that a frustrating mistake was
made, and he's going to another distro.  Would it have been a better
approach to unsubscribe, and simply hop on over to Ubuntu lists and
start working?  I felt his point was well made, and simular to points
other Linux users have made on lists all over the world for years.

  Maddog, you probrably know more background as to why this dig would
be specific to this thread, please share.  :-D

> As a pragmatist, I originally found myself in the "Open Source" camp
> (although I never liked the term "Open Source" either).  Over the years,
> and with careful reflection, I have moved more toward Richard's camp.

  But the bigger picture is, there will BE differences of opinion, and
fighting over disagreements instead of working with them just makes
everyone look the bigger fool.

  I guess it's not the camp that bothers me, it's the direct quotation
which seems to say, 'ESR, your not one of us, and never have been'.

> Part of ESR's latest statements in this letter have to do directly with
> this issue.

  See the above request.  How?  What is the context?

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-- Thomas