Solaris/x86 rant (was: Any advice on Solaris laptops?)
Tom Buskey
tom at buskey.name
Thu Jun 21 10:55:15 EDT 2007
On 6/21/07, Ben Scott <dragonhawk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/21/07, Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name> wrote:
> > A stable API with backward compatibility
>
> A better point to make is the stable ABI. The Linux API does pretty
> well with getting old code to compile under newer stuff. But getting
> old binaries working is often less easy.
>
> There's a definite trade-off in terms of pace of improvement vs
> stability of interface over time. One of the reasons Linux improves
> and adapts so quickly is that the community is not afraid to throw out
> the old stuff. That does tend to increase the programming and
> sysadmin effort, though. And it's a nightmare for closed-source
> providers (too bad for them).
>
> > (Solaris 2.6 Sparc apps will run on Solaris 10.
>
> To those who are not aware, "Solaris 2.6" would be "Solaris 6" under
> the current nomenclature.
Actually, Solaris 2.6 is 2.6. Solaris 2.7 became just Solaris 7. And
there's the retro naming of SunOS 4.x to Solaris 1.x.
> Will Redhat 6.0 apps run on RHEL 5.0?
>
> When was Solaris (2.)6 released?
1998ish? Certainly before 2000. I switched from RH to Mandrake 6.1 around
this time.
I suspect a better comparison would be RHEL 2.1 on RHEL 5.0. Of
> course, I don't know the answer there, either. :-) Maybe one of the
> Red Hat'ers on the list can respond...
Heck, RedHat 6.0 to RedHat 9.
> Multiple SMP (I think x86 goes to 32 CPUs. Sparc goes to hundreds or
> > thousands)
>
> Have they ever built one? If not, that's just vaporware. The E15K
> only went to, what, 64 processors? Still way more than x86, but let's
> be real, too.
You're right. Only 106 CPUs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Fire_15K
> To go sideways: The wave of the future is distributing computing
> ("clusters") anyway, so it's mostly academic.
SMP has an advantage with I/O bandwidth and latency. And Intel has been
demonstrating an 80 core CPU. I think SMP will continue to be important for
general computing and scientific computer where clustering doesn't fit.
> As a server, I can see places where Solaris has advantages. And
> > Linux has many advantages too.
>
> What?!? One size doesn't fit all??? ;-)
Heck, you can see where Windows might have advantages.
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