A plague of daemons and the Unix Philosophy

Steven W. Orr steveo at syslang.net
Mon Nov 12 11:50:05 EST 2007


On Monday, Nov 12th 2007 at 11:14 -0000, quoth Neil Joseph Schelly:

=>On Monday 12 November 2007 10:50, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>> This disturbs me. I hear great things about Ubuntu, but AFAICT, Fedora is
=>> the best and most cutting edge distro AND it's RPM based. I'm sorry, but
=>> I have no desire to move to a deb based system.
=>>
=>> If I was to contemplate a different distro, is there anything that is RPM
=>> based that people can say better things about?
=>
=>Why is RPM or DEB a determining factor?  If you have a distro you like, then 
=>you use it.  If you're looking for another one, then you're already looking 
=>to change the respositories and the filesystem layouts and daemons and other 
=>nuances that differentiate one distro from another.  I guess if you're in the 
=>market for a new distro already, why eliminate DEB-based ones?

The simple answer is that I highly prefer rpm over debian. The access is 
far simpler. Full use of deb files implies about 13 different packages be 
loaded just to do deb things. I'm in a situation right now where I have to 
create .deb files and, while I'm getting my job done, I can tell you there 
is no book that you can buy to teach you all you need to know about the 
hundreds of places where documentation exists on how it all works 
together. 

I'm living with it and I have a few things I know how to do, but compared 
to RPM and the available docs for it, deb files suck big green donkey 
dicks.

This is not a question of liking what you're familiar with. All of us know 
the difference between learning from man pages and having a proper source 
for learning idiomatic usage.

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