Computer show Saturday, in Manchester

David Hardy belovedbold357 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 18 17:54:14 EDT 2012


Pretty much the same experience here that Ben has illustrated, since 2000.
 We run RHEL at work on around 2,500 racked servers and Legal hath decreed
that CentOS ist verboten.  Und VLC ist verboten on any system.  Among other
things that are verboten.

At home I've got Ubuntu 12.04 on an ancient Toshiba laptop that was an XP
machine owned by the state of Vermont, gotta be ten years old now, just to
say I could do it.   Don't use it for much.  My other desktop now also runs
RHEL 6.2 and I have given up on all the other distros.   My very first
distro was RH 6.2 on a desktop twelve years ago.   What goes around comes
around, I guess.

And I have Win7 Ultimate on a desktop pretty much just for our media/home
theater setup;  when I get enough time that I wanna futz around getting an
open source media equivalent, I will probably do so.



On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Ben Scott <dragonhawk at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Roger H. Goun <roger at bcah.com> wrote:
> > Ah, OK, I'd been using Yggdrasil in 1993-94, so it wasn't. But it was
> > when I started a long run of using Red Hat.
>
>   Ah, Yggdrasil.  "Plug and Play Linux". It was a "live CD" distro
> back before that term was invented.  It took bloody ages to boot on a
> 2X CD-ROM with 8 MB of RAM, but it worked.  Much like the dancing
> bear: It's not that it dances well, it's that it dances at all.  I
> remember playing with it in the lab at UNH I worked in at some point.
>
>   I ended up using that Red Hat 2.1 disc for the first install on a PC
> I owned.  At the time, nix seemed pretty weird to me, since I had
> mainly used OSes descended from QDOS (such as MS-DOS, OS/2, and
> Windows 95).  It wasn't until I started reading the man pages for the
> shell and the kernel and the filesystem that I began to see there was
> actually a *design* to that OS.  I remember at one point remarking,
> "There's a certain insane elegance to all this".
>
>   I tried Slackware once.  I remember the installer got confused and
> tried to install LILO on the CD-ROM, and then tried to eject the hard
> disk.
>
>   I ran classic Red Hat Linux for years.
>
>   I tried SuSE for a while, but ultimately decided it had basically
> the design aesthetic as Red Hat, but with less third-party support.
>
>   Tried Mandrake for a bit.  Ditto.
>
>   Ran Ubuntu for a while, but got tired of their goofy pointless
> changes with no escape to the way it was before.
>
>   Ran Fedora for a while, but got tired of their goofy pointless
> changes with no escape to the way it was before.
>
>   (Aside: At work, we're mainly a Microsoft shop.  I'm tired of their
> goofy pointless changes with no escape to the way it was before.)
>
>   Currently, at home, I'm on Debian, because dammit, if I just want to
> run FVWM and xterm and emacs, there's no problem with that.  It'll
> even let me mix in the occasional GNOME or KDE program without having
> to jump through hoops to avoid the rest of it.  The glacial release
> pace means I rarely am raced with an upgrade-or-die scenario.
>
>   At work, for the Linux servers, we run CentOS, because RHEL has the
> broadest industry support.
>
> -- Ben
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