e-mail provider recommendations?

Joshua Judson Rosen rozzin at geekspace.com
Wed Feb 29 14:02:53 EST 2012


Thomas Charron <twaffle at gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
> <rozzin at geekspace.com> wrote:
> > Dear GNHLUG,
> >
> > A couple of (non-technical) friends of mine have expressed
> > a desire to move away from Google's services in response to
> > the latest publicised privacy/security gaffe. The big question
> > is "where do I go from GMail?"--I don't think I'm familiar enough
> > with the options for me to be comfortable making a recommendation
> > at this point..., and I'm wondering if maybe some of you can
> > provide some insight.
> 
>   The biggest disclaimer to give is, *any* mail provider can
> potentially be compromised.  My personal opinion is that the google
> gaffe wasn't nearly as bad as some providers compromises.  It's a give
> and take.  A smaller provider is a smaller target, but also less
> likely to be monitoring security threats and adapting to them.
>
>   Actually, there really wasn't, specifically, a security compromise
> with google.

You're right--it wasn't (and usually isn't) about *Google's* security
being compromised *by third parties*; it's about the *users'* security
being compromised *by Google*. That doesn't reduce the significance.

Try parsing the question this way: can you recommend user/provider
relationship where the provider's business depends on protecting
the user's privacy rather than circumventing it?


> It simply allowed cookies to get thru when you didn't want them to,
> but mostly do to Safari functionality, not google specifically.

>From the exaplanations that I've heard, this summary seems at least
a little disingenuous: WSJ and other sources they say something more like,
`Google specifically/intentionally circumvented Safari's security measures';
I read your text as `Google simply [passive verb], mostly [not their fault]'.

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