What are you doing for home NAS?

John Feole jfeole at gmail.com
Mon Dec 30 12:30:28 EST 2013


I switched about 2 years bac from FreeNAS to OpenMediaVault build on
Debian..
with 3 1tb sata drives.  I set it up with ext4 f/s..

Has run nicely without any issues..

http://www.openmediavault.org/

JFeole


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Jerry Feldman <gaf at blu.org> wrote:

>  I assume you are still using your FreeNAS system. What file system are
> you using, ZFS?
>
> On 12/30/2013 10:56 AM, John Abreau wrote:
>
> Even if the MyBook Live turns out to be more reliable than I'd expect,
> that doesn't negate the poor performance of the unit, especially when it's
> accessed simultaneously by multiple clients. With my usage patterns, that
> limitation is extremely noticeable.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio <ken at jots.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-12-30 09:41, John Abreau wrote:
>> > After trying FreeNAS, I'd no longer consider the consumer-level drives
>> > such the MyBook Live as serious options.
>>
>>  I think this stance is a little overly cautious; there is  data showing
>> that consumer drives don't fail at rates significantly different than
>> "server-grade" drives -- e.g.,
>> http://blog.backblaze.com/2013/12/04/enterprise-drive-reliability/
>> (though I also remember studies done on significantly larger datasets a
>> couple years ago, but they aren't leaping at me from Google).  What I
>> *have* found to be troublesome is that some RAID solutions don't handle
>> drives that spin down very well.  For this reason, I tend to either go
>> with "server-grade" drives, or really do my homework, and find drives
>> that work with the solution (e.g., 3Ware has -- or, at least, had -- an
>> approved hardware list that I find useful).  But I think that, with a
>> suitable amount of caution, there's money to be saved here without loss
>> of functionality or increased risk of data loss.
>>
>> $.02,
>>
>> -Ken
>>
>> P.S.  One thing I should add here, just from a hoo-boy-did-I-stub-my-toe
>> perspective: as a rule, I usually have my arrays use just a leeeeetle
>> bit less than the whole disk.  I had a large RAID-5 array once, and one
>> of the drives failed.  I got it RMA'd *with the same model number* from
>> the manufacturer... and it was one sector smaller.  THAT was annoying.
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Mark Komarinski
>> > <mkomarinski at wayga.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 12/30/2013 1:00 AM, John Abreau wrote:
>> >>> I tried a couple cheaper options such as the WD MyBook Live
>> >> network
>> >>> drive, but I wasn't really satisfied with them, They were slow to
>> >>> access, slow to spin up when inactive, and had serious
>> >> performance
>> >>> issues when more than one process was accessing them over NFS,
>> >> which
>> >>> was the only filesharing option I used. They contained just a
>> >> single
>> >>> drive, which means no raid-1 safety net when the disk starts to
>> >> go bad.
>> >>>
>> >> After getting burned by non-NAS drives in a RAID 5 array, I'm going
>> >> RAID
>> >> 1 for home use from now on.
>> >>
>> >>> Then I picked up an HP N40L mini cube server and installed FreeNAS
>> >> on
>> >>> it, on a usb thumb drive that I plugged into the internal USB
>> >> port on
>> >>> the motherboard. It was the first NAS I've tried at home that I
>> >> was
>> >>> happy with.Performance is much better, even with multiple
>> >> processes
>> >>> accessing the unit, and large file copies both to and from the
>> >> unit
>> >>> seem to complete more quickly.
>> >> Ooh.  I forgot about that little guy.  Replacement for is seems
>> >> to be
>> >> the N54L.  Fits 4 drives, might just get 2x4TB and leave the other
>> >> two
>> >> for future expansion.
>> >>
>> >>> I'm currently using two of the four drive slots with a pair of 2gb
>> >>> drives, configured with ZFS as a raid-1 mirror set. To properly
>> >>> support ZFS, I followed the recommendations in the HOWTO I found
>> >>> online and maxed out the RAM at 8 GB.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's been a couple years since I set it up, so I imagine there's
>> >> a
>> >>> newer model available by now that will accept larger drives and
>> >> more RAM.
>> >>>
>> >>> After trying FreeNAS, I'd no longer consider the
>> >>>
>> >> Err, you cut off there...
>> >>
>> >> -Mark
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