I'm considering consulting out of state. What kind of incorperation?
Jerry Feldman
gaf at blu.org
Wed Jan 30 07:37:51 EST 2013
On 01/29/2013 08:27 PM, James A. Kuzdrall wrote:
> On Monday 28 January 2013 22:28:44 Bill Freeman wrote:
>> I have a potential gig on Long Island on a 1099, but will remain domiciled
>> in NH. I figure that I should become a LLC or sole proprietorship or
>> something. Suggestions?
> I have been operating an engineering business in NH as a proprietorship
> since 1971. Most of my business is out-of-state or overseas.
>
> I was sued in the 1980s for $5M, and in the process learned a lot about
> how the system works - and you notice, I am still operating as a
> proprietorship. Since I haven't been sued lately, some of my data may be out
> of date.
>
> The purpose of a corporation is to protect people who invest in the
> company but do not actively participate in it. The stockholders of Samsung
> will not have to pay Apple anything. That is all it does. Oh, there is one
> more thing - it makes money for the state, accountants, and lawyers.
>
> I had to counter-sue in response to the suit. I told my lawyer it was of
> no use because I knew the guy took all the money out of the corporation. The
> lawyer said it would take 10 minutes in court to break through the
> corporation to his personal assets, and that is all it did take.
>
> They put a lien on my house, but under NH law they could not take away
> what I required to make a living. The state does not want a civil law suit
> making a pauper out of a contributing citizen. My wife was co-owner of the
> house and I ran my business from the house, so none of that was on the block.
> Nor could they take me car or personal stuff like clothes. (They might get
> me Rolex, though, if I was vain enough to have one.) So my savings and
> investments were on the table, as were his.
>
> It went to trial after 4 years, and I won the counter-suit - being talked
> into a negotiated settlement by the lawyers. That still has me angry, but
> the story is too long for here.
>
> A better protection than a corporation is a license of some sort. As a
> licensed Professional Engineer, a plaintiff has to prove I did something
> wrong. Un-licensed, I would have to prove I did everything right. That is a
> major difference!
>
> Common certifications most likely don't have that force of law, but you
> could probably convince the judge to view you as an expert and get a similar
> break.
>
> To avoid the taxes, professional fees, and paperwork, I am quite content
> to stay a proprietorship. (The tax write-offs are the same, of course.)
>
In the past I have done some 1099 consulting. In some cases, before a
business will hire a consultant they sometimes want that business
incorporated and insured.
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Jerry Feldman <gaf at blu.org>
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