how dumb is this idea?

[Tom Buskey]

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Matt Minuti <matt.minuti at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you considered asking the school what they do in situations where
> either the family can't afford the software, doesn't have a computer that
> can run the software, or simply doesn't have a computer? That might open
> the doors to a reasonable solution.
>
>
What he said.  If they're doing fancy animation in the PPT, they're doing
the wrong thing IMO.  A good presenter can make their point in a noisy bar,
possibly a napkin.  The best PPT/animation/multimedia can't make a bad
presentation better.  Teach to present, not to do fancy stuff with PPT.


> Unfortunately, most schools think of "computer" classes as classes in
> Microsoft Office, many using
>

Yes, that's pretty sad.  In my day, we didn't have Office and computer
classes were programming.  We had typewriter classes for the
office/secretarial type stuff.

There is a place for learning spreadsheets, word processors and the like.
Just like learning to use a pencil, ruler, protractor, calculator.

There is still a need for learning "computers" that the average office
worker doesn't learn.  Programming, installing software or an OS, building
a computer.


> some of that infuriating SAM garbage. I've seen Pinkerton using that
> stuff, and it actually marks you as wrong if you Ctrl-C to copy instead of
> clicking an obscure ribbon icon. You may be entering a larger (and quite
> worthy IMHO) battle without realizing it.
>

In college, one of my friends got the right answer on a fluid dynamics test
by solving with thermodynamic methods (equations?) instead of the fluid
dynamic methods taught in the course  (yes, it is possible for some
problems).  He got partial credit.  If he had just put the answer down w/o
showing his work, he would've gotten no credit.


>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Kevin French <kfrench at gmilcs.org> wrote:
>
>> You could just use basic Office online for free.
>> https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx
>>
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>> To: Tom Buskey; Patrick Flaherty
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>> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
>>
>> Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name> writes:
>> > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows.  Then the
>> > data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive.  Edit on
>> > Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office.
>> >
>> > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/  I'd suggest
>> > doing this in any event.
>>
>> Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least
>> not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I
>> probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive.
>>
>> > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation
>> > software.  In which case the student is expected to provide a
>> > powerpoint that works on the school's system.  If that is the case,
>> > you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home.  Maybe
>> > LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok.
>>
>> In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I
>> *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For
>> other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word
>> situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as
>> you say.
>>
>> I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM.
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