gnhlug-discuss Digest, Vol 92, Issue 8

Fri May 23 13:13:34 EDT 2014

If you're using LO on Linux, you likely will benefit from installing and
using the MS core true type fonts in LO files saved in Office formats and
shared with Windows users.

ttf-mscorefonts-installer is the package name, at least on Mint.

It is not free, but does not cost anything.

  Andale Mono
  Arial Black
  Arial (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Comic Sans MS (Bold)
  Courier New (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Georgia (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Impact
  Times New Roman (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Trebuchet (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Verdana (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic)
  Webdings

David

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:33 PM, <gnhlug-discuss-request at mail.gnhlug.org>wrote:

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>    1. Re: how dumb is this idea? (Tom Buskey)
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>    3. RE: how dumb is this idea? (Kevin French)
>    4. Re: how dumb is this idea? (jburtram)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name>
> To: Patrick Flaherty <pflaherty at wsi.com>
> Cc: GNHLUG <gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:07:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
> Portable VirtualBox - to Run Linux in a VM from a USB drive in a Windows
> system
>
>
> http://lifehacker.com/portable-virtualbox-lets-you-take-virtual-machines-anyw-1572641481
> http://www.vbox.me/
>
> Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows.  Then the data
> files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive.  Edit on Linux, edit
> on Windows, always running Libre Office.
>
> http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/  I'd suggest
> doing this in any event.
>
> However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation
> software.  In which case the student is expected to provide a powerpoint
> that works on the school's system.  If that is the case, you should work
> out with the teacher how to do things at home.  Maybe LibreOffice on a
> thumb drive is ok.
>
> FWIW - in Cub Scouting, I've found lots of reference to OpenOffice instead
> of the expensive brand.  Most schools have a licensing deal with MS and
> don't think of it.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Patrick Flaherty <pflaherty at wsi.com>wrote:
>
>> Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre
>> office works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like
>> google docs, but maybe a bit more Free).
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam <david at rysdam.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of
>>> us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately
>>> obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the
>>> school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can
>>> work on projects.
>>>
>>> I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For
>>> something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and
>>> dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no
>>> child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think
>>> GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the
>>> solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both
>>> places, during in-class work periods and as homework.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford
>>> Office at home.
>>>
>>> However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for
>>> ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable)
>>> "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB
>>> drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*?
>>>
>>> They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine
>>> since the host Windows OS could handle that.
>>>
>>> Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I
>>> assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the
>>> benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even
>>> if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I
>>> guess.
>>>
>>> I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to
>>> prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive.
>>>
>>> The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware
>>> have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the
>>> school has.
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>>
>>
>>
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>> * Patrick **Flaherty  *|
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Rysdam <david at rysdam.org>
> To: Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name>, Patrick Flaherty <pflaherty at wsi.com>
> Cc: , GNHLUG <gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:21:06 -0400
> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
> Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name> writes:
> > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows.  Then the data
> > files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive.  Edit on Linux, edit
> > on Windows, always running Libre Office.
> >
> > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/  I'd suggest
> > doing this in any event.
>
> Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least
> not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I
> probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive.
>
> > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation
> > software.  In which case the student is expected to provide a powerpoint
> > that works on the school's system.  If that is the case, you should work
> > out with the teacher how to do things at home.  Maybe LibreOffice on a
> > thumb drive is ok.
>
> In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I
> *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For
> other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word
> situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer,
> as you say.
>
> I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kevin French <kfrench at gmilcs.org>
> To: David Rysdam <david at rysdam.org>, Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name>,
> "Patrick Flaherty" <pflaherty at wsi.com>
> Cc: GNHLUG <gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 18:28:14 +0000
> Subject: RE: how dumb is this idea?
> You could just use basic Office online for free.
> https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnhlug-discuss-bounces at mail.gnhlug.org [mailto:
> gnhlug-discuss-bounces at mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of David Rysdam
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 14:21
> To: Tom Buskey; Patrick Flaherty
> Cc: GNHLUG
> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
>
> Tom Buskey <tom at buskey.name> writes:
> > Or, even easier, portable Libre Office running on Windows.  Then the
> > data files are always Libre Office format on a USB drive.  Edit on
> > Linux, edit on Windows, always running Libre Office.
> >
> > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/  I'd suggest
> > doing this in any event.
>
> Reading these links, I realized that this isn't going to work, at least
> not with the cheap-o 128 GB drives. These things are pretty slow. I
> probably want a smaller, USB 3.0 drive.
>
> > However, I bet the school is teaching *PowerPoint*, not presentation
> > software.  In which case the student is expected to provide a
> > powerpoint that works on the school's system.  If that is the case,
> > you should work out with the teacher how to do things at home.  Maybe
> > LibreOffice on a thumb drive is ok.
>
> In the computer class, they probably are teaching particular apps but I
> *think* they always have time to work on them there in that case. For
> other classes, they are usually handing in paper, well for the Word
> situations anyway. I guess they must be displaying PPT on the computer, as
> you say.
>
> I guess that makes the entire project moot. NM.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jburtram <jburtram at gmail.com>
> To: Patrick Flaherty <pflaherty at wsi.com>, David Rysdam <david at rysdam.org>
> Cc: GNHLUG <gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:30:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
> I second the Google Apps suggestion.  My kids school uses Google
> exclusively and it's easy for the kids to learn and use.  Plus it's
> accessible any where with interwebs connection.
>
>  I would check with the teachers and administration to see if this is a
> viable option.
>
> Short of that,  try the LO options mentioned or the VM hack also looks
> promising.   I may try that one out myself.
>
> Schools generally push acceptance and inclusion in all their other
> activities, computing shouldn't be any different.   Fight the good fight ;-)
>
> -- Joel Burtram
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Patrick Flaherty
> Date:05/22/2014 13:16 (GMT-05:00)
> To: David Rysdam
> Cc: GNHLUG
> Subject: Re: how dumb is this idea?
>
> Have you played with portable apps (http://portableapps.com/)? Libre
> office works on windows and linux. Past that, maybe something hosted (like
> google docs, but maybe a bit more Free).
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam <david at rysdam.org> wrote:
>
>> My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of
>> us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately
>> obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the
>> school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can
>> work on projects.
>>
>> I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For
>> something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and
>> dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no
>> child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think
>> GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the
>> solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both
>> places, during in-class work periods and as homework.
>>
>> I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford
>> Office at home.
>>
>> However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for
>> ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable)
>> "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB
>> drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*?
>>
>> They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine
>> since the host Windows OS could handle that.
>>
>> Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I
>> assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the
>> benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even
>> if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I
>> guess.
>>
>> I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to
>> prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive.
>>
>> The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware
>> have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the
>> school has.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list
>> gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org
>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
>>
>
>
>
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> * Patrick **Flaherty  *|
> * w:* 978 983 6597      *e:* patrick.flaherty at weather.com
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