<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hope is better than, and preferable to despair. Which many of us have had to struggle with, and yes, some of us had to train our Mexican, Indian and Slovak replacements. Or lose benefits and being able to file unemployment claims. It's almost a gigantic middle finger held up to us and/or a wet slap in the face to go through this. <br><br></div>Interesting that they're gonna use RICO for this, though. Sure, the top management knew what it was doing. Gotta keep their country club and yacht berth fees up to date. But there I go again, being cynical. <br><br></div>I sincerely hope it's not just Disney that gets sued, however; plenty of other corporate malefactors and government enablers. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Greg Kettmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greg@kettmann.com" target="_blank">greg@kettmann.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm sure many of us read Slashdot. At any rate, perhaps there's
hope from the legal system. <br>
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IT Workers Allege Conspiracy In Layoffs, File Lawsuits</a><span> <br>
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<a href="http://slashdot.org/%7Edcblogs" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,47,47);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">dcblogs</a><span style="color:rgb(54,54,54);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span> </span>writes with the latest in
the<span> </span></span><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/11/24/0337209/disney-it-workers-prepare-to-sue-over-foreign-replacements" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,47,47);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">laid off Disney IT worker
saga</a><span style="color:rgb(54,54,54);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">.
According to ComputerWorld: "Disney IT workers laid off a year ago
this month are now accusing the company and the outsourcing firms
it hired of engaging in a '</span><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/article/3026332/it-outsourcing/disney-it-workers-allege-conspiracy-in-layoffs-file-lawsuits.html" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,47,47);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">conspiracy to displace U.S.
workers</a><span style="color:rgb(54,54,54);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">.' The allegations are part of two lawsuits
filed in federal court in Florida on Monday. Between 200 and 300
Disney IT workers were laid off in January 2015. Some of the
workers had to train their foreign replacements — workers on H-1B
visas — as a condition of severance. The lawsuits represent what
may be a new approach in the attack on the use of H-1B workers to
replace U.S. workers. They allege violations of the Federal
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO),
claiming that the nature of the employment of the H-1B workers was
misrepresented, and that Disney and the contractors knew the
ultimate intent was to replace U.S. workers with lower paid H-1B<span> </span></span><br><div><div class="h5">
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will sign that, I will also add that I am a SW Engineer with
16 years of experience, I've been laid off twice in that least
few years, both times my job being outsourced to India. I also
think that we're not going to get much traction, for the same
reasons that David mentioned.</div>
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a side note, my father was also working for IBM around the
time they started outsourcing his job he took an early
retirement.</div>
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<div>The malice-aforethought intent, in my opinion, is to
actually put American citizens out of work; I was laid
off over two years ago from IBM and our jobs were
offshored to India and Slovakia. Unemployed ever since,
other than occasional contract and temp gigs, despite
twenty years of solid IT experience across multiple hw
and sw platforms, most recently RHEL and CentOS. <br>
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And the government is evidently in bed with the
corporations who engage in this practice. Asking them to
investigate is like unto asking the police to investigate
one of their seemingly endless brutality and/or civil
rights violations. <br>
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<div>"The petition is directed at U.S. Attorney General
Loretta Lynch and asks her to launch a formal
investigation into the H-1B visa program." - See more
at: <a href="http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf" target="_blank">http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf</a><br>
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<div>Somehow I don't feel confident that the AG's office
will lift a finger for us, other than the usual
mealy-mouthed PR platitudes and corporate-written
bromides.<br>
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<div>Meanwhile they keep telling us how hard it is to find
qualified American workers to do these incredibly
complex and intricate jobs. <br>
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the H-1B visa, putting citizens out of
work. It links to a petition asking the
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See the article here: <a href="http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071" target="_blank">http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071</a><span><font color="#888888"><br>
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