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<p>On 2016-01-26 17:36, David Hardy wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I sincerely hope it's not just Disney that gets sued, however; plenty of other corporate malefactors and government enablers. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">In other articles I read, it was clear that not only was Disney being sued, but so were the contracting firms, themselves. Ah, here we go: <a href="http://www.seattletimes.com/business/lawsuits-claim-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants/">http://www.seattletimes.com/business/lawsuits-claim-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants/</a> (For some reason, the original story, at the Times, is now a borken link. Go figger.)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Greg Kettmann <span><<a href="mailto:greg@kettmann.com">greg@kettmann.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div>I'm sure many of us read Slashdot. At any rate, perhaps there's hope from the legal system. <br /><br />
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<div>On 1/26/2016 12:23 PM, Richard Kolb II wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: georgia,serif;">I will sign that, I will also add that I am a SW Engineer with 16 years of experience, I've been laid off twice in that least few years, both times my job being outsourced to India. I also think that we're not going to get much traction, for the same reasons that David mentioned.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: georgia,serif;">On a side note, my father was also working for IBM around the time they started outsourcing his job he took an early retirement.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:46 PM, David Hardy <span><<a href="mailto:belovedbold357@gmail.com">belovedbold357@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div>The malice-aforethought intent, in my opinion, is to actually put American citizens out of work; I was laid off over two years ago from IBM and our jobs were offshored to India and Slovakia. Unemployed ever since, other than occasional contract and temp gigs, despite twenty years of solid IT experience across multiple hw and sw platforms, most recently RHEL and CentOS. <br /><br /></div>
And the government is evidently in bed with the corporations who engage in this practice. Asking them to investigate is like unto asking the police to investigate one of their seemingly endless brutality and/or civil rights violations. <br /><br /><br />
<div>"The petition is directed at U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and asks her to launch a formal investigation into the H-1B visa program." - See more at: <a href="http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf">http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf</a><br /><br /></div>
<div>Somehow I don't feel confident that the AG's office will lift a finger for us, other than the usual mealy-mouthed PR platitudes and corporate-written bromides.<br /><br /></div>
<div>Meanwhile they keep telling us how hard it is to find qualified American workers to do these incredibly complex and intricate jobs. </div>
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<div>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Bill Freeman <span><<a href="mailto:ke1g.nh@gmail.com">ke1g.nh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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<div>IEEE has an article here about abuse of the H-1B visa, putting citizens out of work. It links to a petition asking the government to investigate.<br /><br /></div>
See the article here: <a href="http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071">http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071</a><span><span style="color: #888888;"><br /> <br /> </span></span></div>
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