<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">There's a GNHLUG jobs list?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif">Richard Kolb II</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ken@jots.org" target="_blank">ken@jots.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>I've gotten one (1) job -- a contracting gig -- by way of a headhunter, clear back in '91. Since then, I've left my name with a few headhunters, but have gotten no good leads, and one headhunter flat-out tried to screw me over. (Or lied. Or both.) Since I moved to NH in '93, I've gotten one job via Usenet, and the remaining four by way of personal networking. I guess it's hard to overstate just how important that is. One thing to consider is the GNHLUG jobs list, which is how I got my most-recent[-1] job.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<p>On 2016-09-01 13:52, Arc Riley wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">My experience with recruiters is an extremely high signal:noise ratio. Increasingly, recruiters (not company staff) are conducting phone interviews, setting up on-site interviews themselves, and provide little to no information on the actual position you're interviewing for.
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<div>I've had recruiters line up job interviews "that you're a perfect match for" that turn out to be for .Net, Ruby, even one that was a windows sysadmin position. I've also shown up for interviews which were not actually scheduled (including Google, who flew me to NYC without actually scheduling the interview) or shown up to find a waiting area full of applicants with staff scrambling to conduct "speed dating" style 15 minute interviews.</div>
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<div>After it all my recommendation is to mark any contact from a recruiter as spam. To +1 previous advice on this thread, the best way to find a job is going to meetups and making personal connections with employees. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Richard Kolb II <span><<a href="mailto:richard.kolb@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.kolb@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I would have to agree with the personal network comments. The last job that I applied for, and got, was in 2003. I've had 3 jobs since then, and they've all been through contacts from linkedin or a personal reference.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Bill Ricker <span><<a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com" target="_blank">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The ones i liked retired.<br> <br> Outplacement firm i worked with most recently said % of jobs found<br> through personal network is growing. Getting hired as an internal<br> referral saves them the hassle of dealing with Monster or Zip or ... ,<br> and is usually better per-screened by the referrer, for free. They<br> recommended strong use of LinkedIn to reconstruct who you used to know<br> so you can leverage their eyes and ears.<br>
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