<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">After running through all the updates my system is running much better with Ubuntu Mate. The download servers are horribly slow though, 96k in 12 minutes.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif">Richard Kolb II</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Chris Linstid <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clinstid@gmail.com" target="_blank">clinstid@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Out of curiosity, why did you disable syslog?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"> - Chris</div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Susan Cragin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susancragin@earthlink.net" target="_blank">susancragin@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><br></div>I run Debian LXDE which is fast. And I have eliminated syslog and pulseaudio. <div>FWIW.<div><div><br><div><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Tom Buskey <u></u>
<br>Sent: Sep 9, 2016 1:18 PM
<br>To: Richard Kolb II <u></u>
<br>Cc: Gnhlug Discuss <u></u>
<br>Subject: CentOS vs Unbuntu desktop
<br><br><div dir="ltr">I've tended to use CentOS for the server; at work they want RHEL and support. With CentOS 5 and 6, I've found the desktop widgets to be lagging. With Ubuntu (and Mint and other derivatives) there tend to be more desktop tools and they're kept up to date. Everything is an apt-get install away.<div><br></div><div>On my desktop, I want to play videos, music, talk to a sound card, graphics card, office suites, IDEs. I don't need that on my servers and it's ok if things are a bit behind.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd check out Mint as an alternative to Ubuntu before going to a CentOS desktop.</div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Richard Kolb II <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard.kolb@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.kolb@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Not exactly related, but I just switched from windows 7 on my primary machine to Ubuntu 16.x LTS. I found it horribly slow, which surprised me considering it's a faster machine, more ram, and an SSD, over my 14.x LTS machine. I then tried Ubuntu Mate and I may just jump over to Centos.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Maybe I need to poke at what services I have running first.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif">Richard Kolb II</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Tom Buskey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom@buskey.name" target="_blank">tom@buskey.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I've been working with CentOS 6/7 based Openstack but have some Ubuntu.<div><br></div><div>FWIW, I prefer the 16.x Ubuntu with SystemD to Upstart. I've found it easier to learn with CentOS man pages than Ubuntu.</div><div><br></div><div>I end up using service and chkconfig to start/stop and enable/disable.</div><div><br></div><div>I've found initctl for Upstart vs systemctl for systemd. </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ken@jots.org" target="_blank">ken@jots.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I believe Ubuntu is perhaps one of the lesser-used distros in GNHLUG<br>
land, but I'm hoping someone here might be able to offer some insight.<br>
<br>
I've got an Openstack install on Ubuntu 14.04 host systems, and after a<br>
hurricane-induced power outage over the weekend, one of our hosts won't<br>
boot -- it fails (seemingly) at loading an Openstack Neutron service.<br>
So, I figure I'll go into /etc/init.d/ and just chmod -x all the suspect<br>
services, see if it boots, and then manually load services. Not so<br>
much; that had zero apparent impact on the services loading.<br>
<br>
So then I did some reading up on Upstart, and found a whole bunch of<br>
places that the services *might* be loading from... none of which seemed<br>
to impact stuff. I currently have the host booted by some serious<br>
cheating (I pulled a disk, went to "manual repair mode" when it whined<br>
about not being able to mount devices, and loaded services from there --<br>
it completely fails to boot single-user), but how in blazes do I:<br>
<br>
* See what services want to be loaded?<br>
* See *where* they get loaded?<br>
* Load them individually?<br>
<br>
I've found some of the services mentioned in /etc/init/, /etc/init.d/,<br>
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user<wbr>.target.wants/, /lib/systemd/system/,<br>
/var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-h<wbr>elper-enabled/ and<br>
/var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-h<wbr>elper-enabled/multi-user.targe<wbr>t.wants/ .<br>
I tried playing around with most (all?) of those locations, to no avail.<br>
Any insight into what I'm doing wrong would truly be most appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
-Ken<br>
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