<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 2:59 PM Curt Howland <<a href="mailto:Howland@priss.com">Howland@priss.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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On Monday 08 March 2021, Joshua Judson Rosen was heard to say:<br>
> On 3/6/21 9:17 PM, Curt Howland wrote:<br>
> > I mean, how silly can one be to object to it being dark when you<br>
> > wake up, and then demanding that everyone else change the time on<br>
> > their clocks so it's light at 7am the way you want it to be?<br>
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> Isn't that pretty much exactly the _opposite_ of what DST does?<br>
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Yes. That is given as a reason to change the clocks. Back during the <br>
wave of "energy saving measures" in the early 1970s, staying on DST <br>
through the year was objected to because, and I quote, "Children were <br>
waiting for the bus in the dark."<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">And when they moved the dates by 3 weeks in 2007, they found that the energy changes depended on your climate. A study in California found a 0.2% decrease in electricity. A 2008 study in Indiana had a 1% increase in consumption.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">Of course that 1% in Indiana translated to ~ $9 million/yr.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">FWIW, changing the clocks is not an American thing. The UK developed BST 1st. So even the UK doesn't stay on GMT!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div></div></div>