<div dir="auto"><div>Thanks Jeff and Maddog. I learned Fortran II ( then Fortran IV) on an IBM 4044 in 1965 and GE timesharing basic. All input to the 4044 was punch cards. Being in ROTC, I went right into the Army, then to Viet Nam. No computers until 1970 😢</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br>Jerry Feldman <<a href="mailto:gaf.linux@gmail.com">gaf.linux@gmail.com</a>><br>Boston Linux and Unix <a href="http://www.blu.org">http://www.blu.org</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 1, 2024, 10:35 PM <a href="mailto:jon.maddog.hall@gmail.com">jon.maddog.hall@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jonhall80@comcast.net">jonhall80@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">My first language was FORTRAN, using punched cards on an IBM 1130 in 1969, but when I went to teach at Hartford State Technical College in 1977-1980 we used BASIC-PLUS on a DEC PDP 11/70 running RSTS/E as a time-sharing operating system.<br><br>Students in those days had no computers at home, and many typically had no computer classes in high school.  The first time they touched a computer keyboard was in my "Introduction to Computer Programming" class.<br><br>When you first logged into your RSTS/E account you were immediately talking to the BASIC-PLUS interpreter, more or less like to talk to a shell interpreter today.<br><br>READY<br><br>was the output given to you.<br><br>If you typed in the line without a line number, the line was executed immediately, so you could use it as a "calculator":<br><br>Print 5*3<br><br>would give you "15" as an answer.  If you typed in a line number at the beginning of the line it stored the command in line order:<br><br>10 Let A=3<br>20 Let B=5<br>30 Print A*B<br>40 END<br><br>Run<br><br>would give you the same answer, but the values of "A" and "B" would stay in memory as would the rest of the program.<br><br>With BASIC-PLUS you did not need an editor (you could use one, but you did not NEED it).  You did not have to know what a compiler was or a Linker or know how to use a fancy debugger.<br><br>Students could start writing programs (albeit sometimes crappy programs) from day 1.<br><br>On the other hand I taught a group of electrical technology students a course in how to write FORTRAN.  I was allowed eight weeks (a summer course) instead of the traditional 13 weeks.  Even I thought this was crazy, but the administration told me it had been done many times before.<br><br>The administration lied.<br><br>Most of the students just got past the stage of being able to edit, compile and link a simple program before the course was over.<br></span>
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<span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">So BASIC has a lot of detractors, mostly due to the infamous "GOTO".  But BASIC-PLUS also allowed you to write and call subroutines and functions.<br><br>So here is to you, BASIC!  You moved a lot of people forward.<br><br>md</span>
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On 05/01/2024 4:04 PM EDT Jeffry Smith <<a href="mailto:jsmith@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jsmith@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:
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