"Freedom Downtime" [was: Kevin Mitnick speaking at MarlboroSoftpro tonight... (fwd)]

[Scott Prive]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Garman [mailto:sgarman at einstein.unh.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:51 PM
> To: gnhlug-discuss at mail.gnhlug.org
> Subject: RE: "Freedom Downtime" [was: Kevin Mitnick speaking at
> MarlboroSoftpro tonight... (fwd)]
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:12, Travis Roy wrote:
> > Okay, here's my little 2600 rant :)
> > 
> > 2600 used to be a good magazine, but now all they are is a political
> > front that is a bit to extreme for me. The magazine and the 
> radio show
> > they have used to be all about hacking, messing around with 
> stuff, and
> > just general fun with computer and electronics. Now it's 
> always the same
> > crap on how to get by some stupid censorware at school, the 
> DMCA and how
> > companies are evil.
> > 
> > I'm not saying what they're talking about isn't true, but I 
> buy 2600 to
> > learn stuff, not to listen to listen to all their propaganda.
> 
> Unfortunately, with the way some of these laws like the DMCA 
> and others
> are coming out, reverse engineering, exploring security, and other
> activities the magazine writes about are essentially becoming illegal.
> If that succeeds, 2600 won't be able to publish anything at all. 
> 
> My impression with the magazine is that it's largely read by teenagers
> with an interest in security and freedom of information. I 
> think it's a
> good thing to encourage social awareness and activism on these issues
> with young people. 
> 
> > And as far as Freedom Downtime.. Can anybody please tell me why this
> > hasn't been released on DVD. 
> 
> It would seem pretty ironic to me if they released it on DVD,
> considering they lost a lawsuit for posting the DeCSS source code on
> their web site. 

How would this be ironic? If they applied CSS to the DVD, I could see the irony... but there's no law or contract that says all DVD's must have CSS scrambling.

One of the Linux DVD websites even lists commercial DVD's that don't have region or content restrictions. I have some anime and music DVD's which have no CSS restrictions. Without CSS, DVD's no "less freedom" than VHS, DV, or VCD...



> 
> I'm waiting for Freedom Downtime to pop up in mpeg or video 
> cd format on
> a p2p network or newsgroup (the copyright on the move allows for
> unrestricted redistribution). 

As much as I applaud this, it's probably the #1 reason we'll never see it on DVD (or if we do, it'll be a bad transfer.. like on expired copyright movies such as Metropolis).


>I hear it's already starting 
> to. If anyone
> has a copy of it in this form, please let me know where I can get it. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> -- 
> Scott A. Garman                         Unix System Administrator
> sgarman at einstein.unh.edu                UNH Nuclear Physics Group
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