[OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th

Travis Roy travis at scootz.net
Tue Oct 25 13:06:01 EDT 2005


>      > Please, explain to me how this is a threat.
> 
>     No, I will not for the following reasons:
> 
>     1:  not relevant to this list.

It was made relevant by you posting about the demonstration. And you are 
more then free to post to me off-list.

>     2:  I am certain that conversing with somebody such as yourself
>         who has already made the value judgement to obtain an
>         EZ Pass will yield absolutely no results.

I have said I had concerns about EZ-Pass (being able to track speed and 
autosend tickets for example). I looked at the pros and cons and made a 
decision that I think is justified based on what I knew at the time.

Clearly you think that I made a bad decision and I would like to know 
why so I can re-evaluate my decision. Everybody can't have all the facts 
all the time. I have been wrong before, I admit that I may be wrong again.

>     3:  I'm fairly confident that the web sites/FAQs offer explanations.

I looked over the spychips site and read the FAQ. If anyplace was going 
to clearly show the threat I would think it would be them. They really 
don't give much of a threat except for the fact that products that have 
an RFID chip don't have anything on the package saying that they have 
one. I don't see that as much of a threat.

>     4:  I'll bet that you could find a better place to post your
>     opinions/queries.

Perhaps, but the thread is here.

>     I only responded to your email because of the gigantic falacy in your
>     line of reasoning, which was basically:
> 
>         I made a value judgement about <X>;
>         I don't understand why everybody else doesn't think
>         the way that I do.
> 
>     If you wish to continue with this line of reasoning, I'll be happy to
>     provide a parody.

I think it's more:

I made a decision based on the information at hand.
Somebody tells me I made the wrong decision but gives me nothing of 
substance to make me change my mind.

And I do understand why people don't like it, but I would like to see 
more justification for the logic.

It's like the people that got food irradiation banned because they 
thought it would make your food radioactive. They clearly did not have 
all the facts.

My stance on RFID is very clear. I think it's a great technology. Like 
all technologies it has a potential for abuse and I think we should do 
something to curb the abuse.

 From my view, Wal-Mart is using RFID for inventory control and I see no 
issues with that. Do you have evidence to the contrary? Please show me, 
because I can't find it. In fact, I think using RFID for inventory 
control is a fantastic use of it.



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