Possible OT: power monitoring
Frank DiPrete
fdiprete at comcast.net
Mon Jun 16 17:16:58 EDT 2008
Curtis Sandoval wrote:
> All,
>
> I have my key systems at home on three UPS battery backups, two
> TrippLite 900s and a CyberPower 675, all with USB ports for notifying
> the protected systems of a power failure. I have two questions related
> to this:
>
> Is there a way, using these or other UPS units, to constantly monitor
> input line voltage and length of outages? I recently had three outages
> within a week and they seem to have been preceded each time by a few
> hours of low input voltage (112v-114v) but I'd like to verify that
> and/or possibly preemptively power down noncritical systems to extend
> the length of battery coverage. Power quality monitoring would be nice,
> but my searches seemed to indicate that quality monitoring is much more
> expensive, and I could find nothing specifically saying that a UPS or
> quality monitor would report real-time to a computer (specifically SUSE
> 10.2 or Ubuntu 8.04).
I had a similar problem with cyberpower units.
In my case I have an inline generator and those units saw the power from
the generator as a power failure. I checked with their tech support and
sure enough, anything but 60hz perfect sign wave, perfect input voltage
is a no-go. In your case I suspect the same thing is happening. When the
grid goes to a low voltage scenario, the ups's are running exclusively
from battery like a no power situation.
The utter lack of input power conditioning explains why they are so cheap.
I replaced them with APC smart UPS units. The APC units come with
published input tolerance specs.
Sure enough, the APC smartUPS units took a slightly lower input voltage
at 58-59 hz and conditioned it, not running off the battery.
I gave one of the cyber power units away and the other is now good for
propping open a door. (I don't know about the tripplite.)
I got the apc XS 1300 retail at staples for about $265.
It has input quality and load monitoring that is displayed on the unit's
lcd display in addition to the power conditioning.
>
> Also, is there a way to monitor the power draw of a set of devices
> (say, plugged into the same power strip and monitor the total) or
> individual device for the purposes of capacity planning for UPS units,
> akin to a Kill-a-watt device but with some sort of ability to report its
> data to a desktop? I have noticed a surprisingly large difference in
> how long two identical UPS units will last with seemingly similar device
> loads and would like to be able to determine how large a unit I would
> need to provide a certain amount of time of backup based on my
> measurements of average length of (and time between) outages, factoring
> in recharge times at a given input voltage.
>
> I have been looking at getting some new or larger UPS units, and I've
> noticed there is a nonlinear relationship between price and capacity,
> which makes me wonder why a person would not buy two or more smaller
> units and daisy-chain them to get higher capacity and redundancy.
>
> Thanks.
>
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