Is your kids' school forcing Zoom on them too?

r270 at r270 at
Mon Aug 10 10:23:20 EDT 2020

I don't have any kids, but my school district and other governments who claim jurisdiction over me also require it.

Since Zoom had said before that it was secure and it turned out that it wasn't, it certainly doesn't make since to trust them now. The way we do it in the open source community is to have lots of eyeballs looking over the code so we can verify it ourselves. So, where can I get copies of the sources for Zoom's app and server?

Also, although the CEO of Zoom has become a U.S. citizen and they are headquartered in the U.S., Zoom is essentially a Chinese-owned company. They do whatever the Chinese government tells them to do including shutting down the accounts of U.S. and Chinese human rights activists.

There are at least a dozen alternatives:

r270 at


On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 17:50:11 -0400
Joshua Judson Rosen <rozzin at> wrote:

> So..., pandemic. That's still a thing, and school is about to start up.
> I hear a lot of schools have decided to make everyone use Zoom,
> whether they're at school or remote. That's apparently what's happening at my kid's school.
> If you haven't heard..., Zoom has turned out to be a complete privacy- and security-nightmare
> (the set of links out from the Wikipedia article is not even exhaustive, but holy crap).
> Though I suspect that most of the people on this list know all about it.
> How are you dealing with it?
> We've been trying to talk to our school's administration ever since they sent out an e-mail
> telling everyone to `expect to use a video-conferencing tool like Google Meet or Zoom'),
> and finally managed to get a meeting with... the Assistant Principal (who honestly is great, but powerless),
> and at this point have basically got a response of "wish you'd raised the issue earlier, but we already bought Zoom"
> (which might not be _as_ frustrating if we hadn't actually first raised this issue back in _March_...).
> NH does make it fairly straightforward to just give up and homeschool if it comes to that...,
> but must it really come to that?
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