List Archive (Was: Re: p2p, anonymity and security)

[Travis Roy]

> Actually it wasn't.  Or at least not all of it.  So what?  It should
> be up to ME, not YOU, when and where I decide to give up my privacy.
> It doesn't matter if the information was ever right or ever public;
> the point is I asked you not to do it, with reason, which I've
> explained before.  You did it anyway.  That's rude.  

So if somebody asks me for a phone number that I might not have, but I 
find it online via google, 411.com or whatever I shouldn't be allowed to 
give it because I don't have permission?

You better start sending google an email asking them to remove the 495 
results for your email address, then contact all those web sites and ask 
them to remove your email address.

I guess my question is, why is this list (that now takes care of hiding 
emails, well kinda) such a huge concern for you.. Why is it HERE of all 
the places that your email is that you feel you must fight this fight. 
If you are THAT worried about your email address perhaps you shouldn't 
even use email. From any kind of legal standpoint (not that there is 
any), say I put your email address in my sig saying you're a weenie for 
trying to hide it, what kind of recourse could you have since I can find 
instances of your email on the web long before I even knew who you were?


> You can't argue that my domain record is no different than posting my
> e-mail address in a public forum, because as we've established, that
> information is quite intentionally wrong.  What of it wasn't at one
> time was entered before this became an issue for me.  Which is
> irrelevant, because it too is now wrong.

If that's the case the fact that I posted it shouldn't bother you in the 
slightest since it's not correct.

> My point is, I and only I should be in charge of what of my private
> information is given to whom and when.  Seeing my address posted on an
> on-call list does not give you the right to give it to your neighbor,
> or anyone else.  Or at least it shouldn't.

Depends on where that on-call list is. If I see a phone number for 
somebody posted in a town hall, public library, the corner store, and 
somebody asks me for that persons number I'm going to give it to them 
without even thinking about it. If I see it at work, I might give the 
number to other people at work, but not people outside of work.

As somebody said before, once you give your email address to even ONE 
other person then it's not private anymore.